"Stupidity: even high IQ people can be stupid."
This makes no sense whatsoever. This is like saying "Even apples can be oranges." Uh, no, an apple is an apple and an orange is an orange.
no offense to those with large families (and no compliment to those with small ones), this is a thread speaking of averages and groups, not specific people and families.
your mileage may vary.
dealer participation will affect consumer cost.
"Stupidity: even high IQ people can be stupid."
This makes no sense whatsoever. This is like saying "Even apples can be oranges." Uh, no, an apple is an apple and an orange is an orange.
no offense to those with large families (and no compliment to those with small ones), this is a thread speaking of averages and groups, not specific people and families.
your mileage may vary.
dealer participation will affect consumer cost.
Jonathan Swift (long dead English guy) also had a solution for this problem. For those who haven't read it, I think you'll all like "A Modest Proposal." :-)
no offense to those with large families (and no compliment to those with small ones), this is a thread speaking of averages and groups, not specific people and families.
your mileage may vary.
dealer participation will affect consumer cost.
I was with you until this bit John Doe. Its precisely what I dislike about people having children. Think they've failed so instead of working to take care of themselves in old age have kids so they are doomed to that unpleasant circumstance. Disgusting reasons for procreation.
As much as we like to be independant, we are not. The larger our support base, the better our lives will be. Everyone becomes more dependant when he or she ages. That's a part of dying. And since when does giving and reciving help mean that you're not actively taking care of yourself? I don't think wanting family is such a disgusting reason for procreation. We need family. Our bilogical makeup drives a desire for family.
Your "they" pronoun is an ambigious reference. Do you mean the kids have that unpleasant circumstance, or the parents?
Parents make many sacrifices for their children. A couple of years of unpleasntness is not an unreasonable request. I gladly took care of my parents, as I think any kid should. I wouldn't exact the same from my kid, if I were to have one, but I would hope that the relationship would breed such an atmosphere where giving help would not be resented. I think that's a noble goal worthy of everyone to strive for. I'm not saying everyone should have kids, I'm saying I see legitamate reasons for kids, and I won't criticize anyone for making that decision. Just because I don't feel special enough to procreate, I also don't feel above others to call their choice to procreate an ego trip. :-)
no offense to those with large families (and no compliment to those with small ones), this is a thread speaking of averages and groups, not specific people and families.
your mileage may vary.
dealer participation will affect consumer cost.
I just think its the ultimate egotrip. You must feel desperately special to believe you are good enough to replicate yourself.
I don't.
You're making some sweeping assumptions here that aren't correct. First, a child is not a "replicate of youself." They are an individual and will become their own person. I disagree with your initial assertion here. While this might be the case for some, I think having a kid is not a result of feeling "deseparately special;" rather, I think for most it is an attempt to feel special. There's no feeling in the world like having a toddler look up to you, seeing them wide-eyed at the things adults take for granted every day. In fact, children can help us to have a much more positive view in the world. Sometimes we forget what it was like to be young, but we can live vicariously through children.
And then, what about when we get old? If you have no younger family, what will happen to you? State care? Of course it's not fair to put the burden for you care on your children, but children/parents with good relationships will always support one another.
I can think of many reasons for having kids. . .
what would the results be like for questions like "have you ever doubted your religion"?
how about "do you believe your worldly husband will be killed at armageddon"?.
what if the wts decided to use polygraphs on all dubs to test thier faith?.
Polygraphs are completely and utterly useless. There's good reason why courts exclude such tests. They do not detect lies, they detect nervousness--simple as that. A good lier is a good lier and can defeat a polygraph easily.
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i know this is a gloomy topic but have any of you picked a song that you would liked played at your funeral.. i want james blunts new song "goodbye my lover" i heard it for the first time yesterday and cried never had that happend before.
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I really don't care what they do when I'm dead. As the funeral is for the living, I'll leave it up to them. :-)
please, huge warning, if you're an angry ex-jw, save your bs advice, i dont' need to hear you put jw's down just to give advice.. i was raised a jw & am still bitter over injustice growing up at the hands of my elder father, and bitter over the abuse of my ex-husband.. i miss my fam, i miss peace, i miss a sense of belonging.
any advice on how to gain inner peace w/o selling myself out?.
ginger
What do you mean by selling yourself out?
I think I understand your spiritual angst. I was also raised as a Witness and I'm still grappling with what to believe. Some things that have helped me has been to study history and discover that every issue we deal with has been dealt with eons ago. Studying other religions also helps. I'm agnostic now, but I find studying faiths interesting, and I believe every one has something of value if we know what to look for. I don't think that considering positive aspects of religion constitutes selling out.
Most of all, though, what helps me is to accept that what I determine of conclude will have no bearing on anything, that the same questions will be asked when I'm gone, in short, that spiritual angst is not worth losing sleep. Find something that brings you joy, and pursue such courses with a passion. What have you always wanted to know? What skills have you always wanted to acquire? What kind of person do you want to become? Answering any of these questions in meaningful way will require experimentation and work. In an honest pursuit of these matters, spiritual angst becomes much less important--a mere fog during the dawn of understanding, that lifts as we live further into our day, searching for the sunlight. Carlyle says to lower your expectations to nothing, and you'll achieve infinity. In math, the limit as we approach division by zero is an ever expanding asymptote--the gist of Carlyle's argumentation.
Nothing I've said will be the answers you seek, as your question is one that you must answer with your own heart and mind. That answer will be the only one that matters.
i was raised as a dub, and i suppose when i was quite young i found some of the bible stories interesting.
however, the older i got the more boring the bible seemed.
obviously, it had a lot to do with repetition.
Sounds like short attention span problems.
are jehovahs witnesses meant to take the story of adam and eve literally or just figuratively.
No, they don't take everything literally. For instance, the seven days of creation are not supposed to be literal 24-hour days. However, the Adam and Eve story is taken to be literal.
sometimes violence is granted in order to stop violence.
new orleans (ap) police shot and killed at least five people sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors traveling across a bridge on their way to make repairs, authorities said.
deputy police chief w.j.
I've noticed sarcasm is wasted for most of the people on this site. These are the same folks who will take Jonathan Swift's _A Modest Proposal_ at face value.